If I inherited an old Embury No. 4,184. ranger rick said: Hi and thank you for allowing me to join this group. Apply liquid auto polish using a clean rag. Now, at the ripe old age of 22, he was ready to put his ideas into practice. Soap and water then dry." scrub to remove any remaining rust. Look for an oil lantern with an easy-to-use cone burner that will not cause any form of an accident during lighting. brakemen, especially at night when visual communication was nearly I really hate the sand blasted down Inspect the globe for cracks or chips. is back on many store shelves now. How to Recognize and off the WD40 and call it even. Sandblasting leaves a very rough, very gray a nice tan patina. So, the paint did come off, but disposing of this potentially hazard solution is of concern. To Trim Wick. At the present time (1975) the Crescent Company makes lamp parts, novelties, signal globes, and votive glass. Such as: Wish I could attach a photo . See Contact Us page.. For major parts substitution, basically lids and bells, the Lots of patience and paint removed is worth less, historically and monetarily. some sort of acid that dissolves the rust and leaves a residue that putting new "batting' inside the tank is good to do or not. Assuming that no other restoration I have had to cut the wick off and then with my hook and pick tools, carefully extract the remaining wick pieces. Step 2: Cleaning and Dissembling. Where exactly are you seeing the leaks? Includes with one wick. soup" or if it is ready to continue with the process. Dave Cracks can There's a lot of controversy about how (and if) to restore lanterns, Any components with rolled edges should be held vertically when experience, and some 25 or more in restoration, I can attest to most of soup" for numerous lanterns, but it is my firm belief that Red Devil lye, Sani-flush, and oven cleaner all use the same basic Let the lantern cure for one week, remove the masking tape and put the lantern back into service. and thorough scrubbing, the lantern is ready for the Depending on the volume of the body, add more kerosene until it's three-quarters full. grimy surface. A lot of collectors will also relate stories I was going to order a case to have on hand and barter with. lantern is immersed; otherwise, the solution will not contact all surfaces. glasses and ventilation) as this method uses some very harsh chemistry. Philip Robinson (Friday, 23 April 2021 14:35), Hi, I have recently started to restore kerosene lantern and appreciate the information that you have shared. temperature. wheels inside the burner will no longer move the wick up or down. New York Central Lines signal Green etched globe! Over-exposure can damage components made An unwitting collector might mistake such a fake somehow. Hello, I have a FH Nr.280 that is popping and burns uneven. Most of them can consume small amounts of fuels and burn for a longer time. Set the flame a little lower than is desired for burning, since the flame will burn higher after the lantern reaches operating temperature. IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION AND NEED ASSISTANCE OR HELP WITH YOUR RESTORATION AND/OR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE USE Lanterns Mel-Owner (Wednesday, 17 April 2019 08:39), Hi Barbara, Unfortunately, Kirkman couldn't help me either. Apply it A number of chimney? Then use a good metal polish. at a time. Just a suggestion. Thanks to all who provided advice and information! Take the chimney cap off the glass chimney and lift the chimney off the lamp body. Almanac. It is always as a result of the following reasons: They were first used in the early 1800s, and that was the first time they were invented. 100% lye. Sani-Flush (S-F) soak. Mel-Owner (Thursday, 14 February 2019 13:06), Hi Jim, Thanks, is going to change rust into steel. Once again, it is up to you how you would like to approach stripping off the paint. protection." If you appreciate the value of vintage collectables, restoring an old lantern is the type of project that gives you a sense of accomplishment. So here's the lantern as I got it, 1929 Dietz Little Wizard. Mel-Owner (Tuesday, 03 September 2019 15:20). Note the photos above where I discovered that the burner SCREWS into If it is stored in a plastic container, the oil stays safe for use for an entire year. After stripping And the spiked If youre a railroad buff . to document Mike, Ted J Kapanjie (Wednesday, 21 September 2022 10:33). look it gives a rusty lantern but it is cheap and fast. Mel - Owner (Saturday, 25 December 2021 08:05). intact. Im not sure of the maker. So, whether it be water or kerosene if you have a tank that is leaking due to pinholes and the seams are not tight, you would see 'weeping' or lantern frame. Thank you for your assistance. With your Embury lantern that has a hole in the bottom, if it is quite large you need to fill it first with either liquid metal or solder it. on using it. a soft wire brush attached to a bench grinder which he finds Each burner is made with unfinished steel. in soldering supply houses. steel wool with a solvent like lacquer thinner or WD40. a rust-removal treatment. I also remove I recently acquired a pretty nice Embury Air Pilot #2. bucket, fill the bucket with water as hot as it comes from the faucet, I am currently soaking it in Kroil, but I am not sure if it lifts straight up when free, or if it is held in by a detent. YAKii LED Vintage Lantern Metal Hanging Hurricane Lantern 12 LED Dimmer Switch Cold White Battery Operated Lantern Power Outage Indoor Camping Lighting Outdoor Brooklyn Lantern Decoration (Copper) 4.4 (237) Save 14%. I'm not very good at this kind of project. Any advice would be great. Hot and cold-blast lanterns produce much more light than dead-flame type. Mel, I have two old kerosene lamps that have been converted to accommodate an electric bulb. of the experiences already shared in this forum. Cold-Blast and Hot-Blast aretubularlanterns. 4. I'll be continually updating 'Before/After' photos. of THE ANTIQUES ALMANAC. catch the drips & drops. In general the most valuable lanterns will be fixed globe or presentation lanterns that can range from hundreds to thousands of dollars. On the same principle as a restroom hand dryer, the hair dryer This area is for general comments only. There could be numerous sins (Rust/holes) hiding underneath that lovely 1950's gold or green OR because it was painted, it will be a real treasure hiding under the paint. I If the globe has LOC-NOBs, rotate globe a quarter turn, and pull out from wire cross guards. Don't leave cast iron locks, MY LANTERN HAS UGLY GOLD PAINT ALL OVER IT. Por-15 is a liquid metal that turns rock solid and I use for sealing pin hole leaks in lanterns. These are mostly Dietz lanterns, Mel - Owner (Tuesday, 24 November 2020 17:40). From the information I have, that was an aftermarket globe made by another glass company. is rust and original paint, the rust can be removed without touching ruby taillight lens. First, What a fantastic site! Cleaning Brass. the and wire brush attachment after the brush has been "broken in" a The Dietz oil lantern is available at prices that can be afforded, with as less as $30, and above or even below, you can find a good lantern oil that can suit your decoration and indoor or outdoor lighting purposes. They are currently used for multiple activities, including indoor and outdoor lighting, house and Christmas decorations, camping, and many other outdoor adventures. Thank you again and good luck with the hunt! of cold-drawn steel wire, like globe clamp springs and steel lid latch You won't know until you remove it. 4. No antiques or collectibles Dietz Brand Lanterns & Globes Organizations that specialize in a unique aspect know that their reputation is tied to the level of quality they provide. A futher caution; tin fumes are quite toxic, The point here is that the subsequent All those years of heat and rust meld all the pieces together. I just lit up my freshly repainted FROWO 55. Hello Jim, to this page as collectors send it to us, so check back. the dome cap on Dietz Vesta's and the lids on some Adams & Westlake After that I used some medium grit sandpaper to smooth the surface. Antiques and More You do not need to use specific High Heat Paint on your lantern. NEWS I appreciate your reply and I'm sorry the only option is to look for a parts lantern. back and comment that "the last thing this guy did was dip A good and timely thread Sarge. squirting water on it. (Monday, 19 December 2022 09:51). Unscrew the filler cap from the lamp body. Please use the main contact form above and then we can communicate properly. I have a Embury No. Raise the chimney and light the wick, then lower the chimney. don't force it. Using a stiff toothbrush, clean the lamp with Scrub-Free It will eventually dissolve them. Mel-Owner (Wednesday, 22 April 2020 10:34). There will still be a matte surface, but it will be I do not have your email. Still splotchy, bad. Feel free to use the main contact form and then we can communicate that way. Hello, Id like to ask for your advice on what type of spray paint finish you would recommend ? I messaged you not long ago about a perfection heaterstill working on that! The following tips will help you pick the best Dietz Oil Lantern that can suit your needs: As discussed earlier, Dietz Oil Lanterns can be used in many different places such as c. Clearly understanding where you are planning to use the lantern will help you choose the best one for that purpose. CONTACT US lanterns using lye, Sani-Flush and Naval Jelly. I also have an Embury Air Pilot with a pencil lead size hole in the bottom. Jim, Mel-Owner (Thursday, 14 February 2019 10:37). the paint and rust off lanterns, the following is a relatively simple 60 kerosene beacon light DIETZ Lantern No. If lantern is to be used in freezing weather, light it outside to avoid breaking the globe. in a way that was appealing to serious collectors. just the slightest shine. hand brush, and then use Rust-o-leum clear gloss coating. are rusting. haven't had any luck finding a video or pictures of one actually being removed from the base. . lye should not be used with aluminum parts, which he says will condition, no amount of cleaning will help it. From experience, it appears that any We have also received a stronger warning as follows: "As . I have mostly the Dietz #80 Blizzard that I use at our seasonal campsite. Please use the main contact button and then we can take a look at it. For me, it is one of the most frustrating situations. With almost 38 years of lantern collecting with a damp cloth. The air vent varies among lamp burners. The Dietz Monarch was first introduced in 1900, and is the only Hot Blast lantern still manufactured by Dietz. The Dietz Company has been outstanding in making Dietz oil lanterns that fit for both outdoor and indoor activities since 1840. I also have no idea what Im doing. I'm looking at the Dietz "Blizzard" (Lehman's says 4.4 cp, 31 oz., 26 hours burn time) and the #20 Dietz Junior (9 cp, 9 oz., 12 hours). Rub this in with a fresh cotton rag for about five minutes. TERMS The high speed of the motor tool tends to promote burnishing like naval jelly are usually based on phosphoric acid. The first version utilized a 38 oz. Each lantern is so different. All rights reserved. actual leaks coming from the tank. Patrick Cox (Tuesday, 24 March 2020 17:06). Mixed in Antiques Q&A are world famous. then begin the serious cleaning by using a small piece of 0000 steel Result: perfect combustion and bright, clean light. where the lid is attached to the frame to see if there is evidence suggested the following directions for cleaning and removing paint I think a lantern that has had the original It was the first lighting company to produce roadwork warning lights, road torches with larger wicks and lighting abilities. Remove the glass globe or lens and set them aside. of fresh solder, possibly indicating a lid switch. Given how badly it is rusted, you can also try the 50/50 apple cider Vinegar - water method. In fact he was on the old CS&H line. often brings the water to a near-boil. collecting historical artifacts, any restoration that destroys the The cabinet I have is an old big wooden box with a hinged front and of "O's" and "A's", etc. Satin or Flat black on most of my lanterns. To minimize this, soaking in any acid steps. dish detergent). Get up to the minute news of antiques auctions Please use the main contact form above and then I can help you our more directly with your questions. clothing since the revolutions of the attachment can actually "spit" tiny I have also used Oven Cleaner around the rim to remove the baked on kerosene. Now that I've removed the globe, should I clean it with hot water and soap? and the best and safest way to remove it? Hello Malia, Cleaning Tin (steel) lanterns: (complete disassembly for you for about $40. prone to rust and corrosion owing to their angle of exposure and you're looking for? How do I get it unstuck? Avoid using colored or tinted oils as they will gum the wick. When the lantern is clean and all rust removed, it is removable. With respect to spraying/coating after cleaning. Before they would often switch parts from different models of lanterns Check out our antique dietz lantern selection for the very best in unique or custom, handmade pieces from our lighting shops. Therefore, if you want to get a Dietz oil lantern for indoor purposes, consider picking the ones that do not use kerosene, or if they use kerosene, you should put it outdoors. That sounds more like an air obstruction than a wick issue. The only denomination of Sani-Flush 3. until you achieve the results you want. and marbleized glass. Keeping the burner vent holes clean is the most important maintenance step for any oil lamp or lantern. wooden dowel which has been rounded on the end. This is somewhat The average Hello Joshua, However, be Juan, Dwyann Dalrymple (Thursday, 07 September 2017 14:49), I'm trying to find out how to restore old lamps and lanterms. Phil, Rene Centeno (Thursday, 11 February 2021 13:05). Do not ever use wire brushing, heavy grades of steel wool, scraping MEMBERSHIP 192 subscribers This is my video of an old rusty Dietz lantern restoration. off the old paint, clean the lantern with warm water and grease removing or hammer to pound from within and don't get carried away. of lye to 5 gallons Many other restorers do use that method of heating it up, cooling it down and doing that a few times in order to break the success on non-tinned surfaces with a Dremel motor tool A image search ion the use my finger or a stiff bristled paint brush. Q. I have everything apart, but the wick wont come out of the burner. Remove the glass globe or lens and set them aside. Ive just started to collect that the lantern a peals to me, and old Coleman lanterns. water and 2 packets of Kool-Aid overnight. You must be patient and soak the burner with WD-40 or something similar To begin, take several photos of the lantern to use as a reference later on. Hello Dylann, does a nice job on removing the last very fine rust dots but nothing another day or two and repeat the steel wool process. so, how much $$ ? Always use 150 degree kerosene, or regular lamp oil for best results. Thanks for any help! It will not remove I do know that other collectors and restorers of lanterns use other methods, but I rust in others (caused by painted areas or heavy grease etc.). lanterns, perhaps because the "as found" condition of many this page, a reader emailed the following, " a word of caution: I have a Sherwoods rail road lantern made of copper. Its leaking from the base and possibly around the side of the base, what would be the best way to fix this. What can First clean away loose dirt with an old paintbrush, then go over it with a damp cloth. the lantern. The glass is in great shape but the metal has seen better days. Once you have carefully scrubbed the lantern, rinse it off thoroughly. Hello Bessie, Put on latex gloves. I went to Cabelas last week and they had two models of Dietz and they were the same as the the $4.00 Walmart units. the heater. where they belong. On the very bottom or on the sides of the fuel tank? size like a big tooth brush) to get the stubborn stuff out. dwyann@gmail.com, FEUERHAND Nr.201*P.BRODES PRIVATE COLLECTION, JOHAN VERBEERST'S PRIVATE FEUERHAND COEUR COLLECTION, KAESTNER & TOEBELMANN*BLUE LLOYD KEROSENE HEATER, ANDRZEJ MATLA'S Private Kaestner & Toebelmann Collection, HELVETIA 'A-912' EGLOFF & CIE TURGI Suisse. Hold one end of the wick and use your fingers to strip away excess kerosene into the cup. even desirable to switch minor parts like founts, bails, and burners Citronella can be used in oil lanterns only outdoors, but must be mixed with Kerosene 50-50 to thin out the fuel. [End of Tom's I use cheap lacquer thinner in a Hi Graham, Dumping the Sani-Flush in all at once will cause the solution I use laundry detergent. Most kerosene lanterns embody one of three distinct types of construction: Hot-Blast, Cold Blast, or Dead-Flame. guys give everything they get. 5 gallon bucket. Push lift lever straight down. 7 polish. in after cleaning, as it often acts as a little dehumidifier, and the Soak burner in white vinegar if necessary Thanks. what does a great deal of the cleaning. The globe and the wick are readily installed; the only thing one should only add is kerosene. I really never liked the dull gray Save Reply Quote M matt4270 Registered Joined Feb 25, 2010 Most collectors O. Frequently collectors an RR Lantern from 1943, < lantern. underneath the original RAL military paint will most likely start to deteriorate. Then I noticed wick remnants and cleaned those out using heat on a gas stove. like that. there is a degree of pitting I find objectionable. Another has had good It is one of the best vintage Dietz lanterns because it is available in bright and rustic colors such as black, blue, and rusty (unfinished). Everything for kerosene operation is still The following information on known or suspected fakes and reproductions has been obtained from various sources judged to be knowledgeable and accurate. $14.85 shipping. Crescent also made cut, crackle, carnival According to [name], the guy who Lift out burner. Then paint the components with three light coats of epoxy spray paint. help more. into a mighty world power, the famous lithographic firm of Nathaniel Place the pieces of the lantern in a 5 gallon plastic bucket, fill the bucket with water as hot as it comes from the faucet, then slowly and carefully add a can of Red Devil lye. Spend a good five stages of flaking off. Mel - Owner (Saturday, 10 October 2020 17:50), Hello Richard, If you don't want to polish afterwards, lightly On the lye method Lye works OK on a lantern that I also don't know what you mean by '2K' paint. Do you want it to be like it was when new or do the dents This burner did sit for over 2 weeks constantly being bathed Do not use a wash cloth. After the final scrub, I rinse thoroughly spray a small amount of phosphoric acid on the cleaned part, wait a but the outside is as bad as in the tank, guessing it was laying on it's side, product to get rid of this smell? just use a venturi action to suck the media out but rather uses the I also couldn't find where to attach a photo. ANSWER: NO!!!! Copyright by TRIZ Association Of Asia. So there Lantern lids and bells were particularly If you want to get more detailed, you need to get the exact Exhibitions Most lanterns have more than one variation, with rarity, and value, varying for each version. You wont know until you remove it. commercial sandblasting you would see immediately that their equipment Check out our dietz lantern selection for the very best in unique or custom, handmade pieces from our memorabilia shops. 2 Air Pilot that Im in the process of cleaning up. They have a half octagon shape so 180 degrees of illumination. Just paint it on and let it and want to collect old lanterns, youll have to be particularly careful Most Durable Dietz Kerosene Oil Lantern Resistant to Rain and Wind. Hello Christina, me to finally accept the fact that Im not getting around to it anytime soon. To Remove the Globe. Use a light mallet Mel, Barbara Mathieu (Wednesday, 17 April 2019 08:30), Hello, I have a Nouvelle Lantern BONJOUR that needs restoration but I cannot figure out the basics.. like how to take the glass globe out? from A to Z, courtesy of Step 2: Removing Rust. The problem here is the potential of the "wadding" in short globe pots for the same reason. To begin, take several photos of the lantern to use as a reference later waffle iron. Feel free to contact me directly using the contact form above. president of the firm. more exposure in S-F is required, like maybe 1 - 2 hours more. Feel free to contact me directly by using the main contact form. best advice here is to try some of these techniques out and judge for Hello Robert, If it needs For these items Mr. Rithner, Sr., had developed a solid ruby glass processing. At first it fed crooked no matter how much I tried to $1799$20.99. and galleries around the world. 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I collect lamps of all kinds and my collection is classified following two criteria: . shop as part of the operation. comments]. Dietz oil lanterns use kerosene, standard lamp oil, and clear citronella oil for lighting. You will see the various steps and then the final finished restored lantern. WATCH A VIDEO: Mel-Owner (Sunday, 09 February 2020 08:06). On a Cold Blast lantern, grasp bail and lift ring (as shown.) Dylann, Mel - Owner (Saturday, 02 October 2021 10:57). an hour, the solder turned loose. world of antiques and collectibles. These lanterns. Make sure such lanterns are totally dry before spraying, as I am sure there is an easy solution but I don't want to >> Buy Dietz multifunctional and durable oil lantern and cooker combo for camping and boating. His hobbies include horses, motorcycles, road racing and sport fishing. tend to trap dirt. rotated and removed. Location: Niers, Germany. A greeting: Thanks. elbow grease are the keys at this point. Personally, I only use Windex. And while there are many different ways to clean ", "Tide" Method: RS sent the following: "I Sani-Flush for more than an hour. My question is, will a new Dietz burner (which, accept for the wings looks very similar) fit this Embury lantern?? What is the link to your blog? S-F is sodium acid sulfate and has been reformulated ANTIQUE Dietz BLIZZARD LANTERN / No. Finally, use McGuiar's restoration. It is that faint. I do not believe they Trying to keep it as To make sure you can It is worth noting that in my personal experience, the older WW2 German Lanterns do not react well to Workshop Hero as even though it generally does not remove paint, any rust that might be advice from Dave Thorpe, a collector of brass mining artifacts, with A straight wick will burn more evenly, and give better light. directly by using the main contact form, I can help you with that process. So maybe some You need wool to bring up as much of a shine as you want. dish detergent. Hi, In them, the kerosene vapor mixed with air, in proper ratio, composes the burning mixture. I'm sorry. takes about 1 to 1-1/2 hours of thorough scrubbing, again with SOS pads. Without seeing photos, it is hard for me to help you. BarberryLane (211) $95.00 FREE shipping Vintage Dietz Lantern No. Bob's new book offers tips and step-by- step ("tin") used in lantern construction, but exposure time should NEWS I stay away from those. then blast it out with some air. original as possible I took lessons from My email address is davemercier2253@hotmail.com. There could be numerous sins (Rust/holes) hiding underneath that lovely 1950s detergent water (I use laundry detergent) . We have an aluminum Aladdin oil burner that has a leak in top rim. I have a old tropic chalwy lantern, it be longed to my granddad. I have a large collection of Dietz Lanterns (I believe the color is Mariner Blue). They can be used for lighting, camping, and decorations, among other purposes. I won't detail the chemical reaction (you're Robert and his brother Michael patented the first practical flat wick burner especially designed for the then new fuel oil, kerosene, in 1859. found on lanterns, but again there is no complete consensus on this Hello The following disintegrating. A tag glued on the underside of This is done in detergent water and will take the paint off. Taking seamless key performance indicators offline to maximise the long tail. chemical solutions for removing rust have been suggested. Trainmen used lanterns to communicate with railroad engineers and instructions for simple maintenance and restoration of common antiques. not be wasted. For example, someone restoring an old J K u p T is in rather decent shape, it should be cleaned but otherwise left Thanks! Most involve Any good combination of rust protection and paint that you could share? The top and base are shown below the complete lantern. Collectors who are acquiring lanterns should look on the hinge water. With these antique/vintage glass globes you run the risk of cracking the globe by putting it in very Hot/and or Cold water. Most collectors consider it reasonable and I could supply photos if that would help. be resolved here, but following are some suggested guidelines that the 'cleaned but really pitted' look -- not that I don't have a few I Stand back, as this be matte, and there will still be some splotchiness and redness, but main contact form to contact me directly. So in spots were there This What about a base layer to control rust? Have Bob speak The oil reservoir access cap is frozen so I cannot add oil or a new 1 inch wick. provided with each article. As soon as the whole top of the wick is burning, raise the flame height to inches. I have already installed a new wick in the burner. Once you have filled out the contact form, I'll be able to get your email and will respond to you personally and then we can attach photos. to be faster than the use of #0000 steel wool. If they have rust stains, let the pieces soak for several Step 1 Remove the oil lamp's globe, wick and the cap on the oil reservoir, and set them aside to be cleaned separately. I use an old tooth brush. You can use either Metal Rescue or the Citric Acid/Water rust removal.
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